i’ve had about 20 jobs. i’m not sure how many job interviews i’ve had: about half a dozen for permanent posts, i think, and perhaps as many for temp jobs; of these i’ve passed three:
1. Temporary tour coordinator at a local theatre company, my first temp job when i was 26. i had initially applied for a low-level permanent post, paying £10,000. The HR manager said i was overqualified but that if i insisted, i could come for an interview. i was rejected for the interview, then a few days later they said they were in urgent need of temps for the summer, and if i was willing to come back to another interview, they would consider me. Grimly amused, and wondering if i would be rejected again, only to be offered a job as toilet cleaner or human punchbag or crash test dummy, i went for a second interview. This was 9 months after leaving university with my MA Distinction (not easy to get), and i had been rejected for, i’d guess, about 100 jobs. i was not in a good mood.
A girl with a pretty nose – let’s call her Polly – introduced herself as being responsible for the tour coordination. She looked at me rather bluntly and said: “Tell me about yourself”.
i gave her a wondering look, prompting her to be more specific. She looked back in wondering silence. So i launched into one of my deadpan monologues: “i really like pies. They give me purpose. i’m always looking for really good pies but they’re hard to find. Factory-made pies are usually pretty bad but i can’t cook…” i discoursed on pies for a couple of minutes. i got the job. It turned out she had a sense of humour as well as a pretty nose. Later, i wrote a novel about her and her nose.
2. Minimum wage grunt at a credit reference company in Bradford. They were obviously desperate (3 temps were hired, including myself: one left after a week saying it was ‘too boring’; the other faked a car accident so he could leave). i assumed i wouldn’t get the job – i’d only applied because the JobCentre had sent me the job ad just before one of my ‘reviews’ and i thought they might check on it. i’d just finished my novel, about a week earlier, and out of a Hitler-like sense of destiny believed i would be scooped up to literary acclaim, and thus be spared the indignities of pointless and savage jobs. Somehow my rather distant courtesy presented the right impression – perhaps they mistook my indifference for evidence of a total lack of character or imagination, which, it transpired, were prized qualities in this workplace.
3. My present job. No one else turned up for the interviews and i’d already been doing the job as a temp for 6 or so months, so they gave it to me.
i’ve tried various tactics at interviews and have come to no clear conclusions. i’ve tried to be fairly honest, with disastrous consequences; then i tried to lie, to no avail (i’m a bad liar); i’ve tried to make friends with the interviewers, which is fairly easy when they’re nice, but again has never resulted in acceptance; in the end i settled on a vaguely horrified stare, monosyllabic replies, weary shrugs, and a generally downbeat and morose air – while this is hardly a winning tactic, it somehow doesn’t seem as disastrously bad as my others.
i’ve given the matter of interviews some thought. My problem is an inability to say things like “I’m really enthusiastic about working for such a prestigious company. I am dynamic and forward-thinking. I’m a problem-solver and a team player. I make moves on the street. I hustle. You see this watch? This watch cost more than your car” without a strongly sarcastic tone. If i try to say them straight my throat chokes up and i find myself simply unable to speak; i had the same problem with my Literary Theory exam at university, an inability to knowingly misuse language.
i tried to be honest(ish) at some interviews because i thought, “surely they can’t expect someone to be wildly enthusiastic about a £12,000/year job in London which consists chiefly of menial office tasks?” So i would say that i looked forward to learning more about the industry through the job, implying that the job was itself a necessity, since everyone has to start somewhere. From the looks on the interviewers’ faces, i saw this was astonishingly foolish. They obviously wanted me to bounce up and down on my chair saying: “Oh, this is my DREAM job! I’ve always fantasised about surviving in London on £12,000 year and doing photocopying for 8 hours a day! I could do this job forever! I’ll do it for free!”
How could intelligentish people expect such a reply? Surely you would question the sanity of anyone who seemed genuinely enthusiastic about a low-paying, boring job? Then i realised – it wasn’t so much that they were looking for someone who was eager to do a crap job, since such people don’t exist; they were looking for people who were willing to lie, who were able to parrot the mantra of the successful interviewee with convincingly feigned enthusiasm. The point was to filter the applicants, to see who was malleable, who, lacking a spine, would be able to bend over backwards. Those who could convincingly feign enthusiasm for a manifestly tedious job were the same people who would work unpaid overtime, who would suck up to the boss, the Bud Foxes of the world who are willing to put their boss’ dictates above ethics or the law. As Theodore Dalrymple put it:
A long interest in the political propaganda of dictatorships has convinced me that the purpose of such propaganda is not to describe, much less to persuade or change people, but to humiliate them. The more at variance with reality the slogans are, the better: nothing is more destructive of people’s ability to resist than forced acquiescence to what they know is tripe.
People who are willing to unironically describe themselves as pro-active team-players (etc.), who can break language away from any truth value, who can use words with a Blairlike irresponsibility, describing black as white, are ideal employees. The point of interviews is not to see who is enthusiastic to do a crap job; it’s to see who’s able to dissimulate enthusiasim, who is corrupt.
My favourite question is ‘where do you see yourself in ten years?’ There’s the truth (usually involving whisky, brown paper bags, and the grottier side of dustbins) or what they want to hear, which is no better off and involves my still working for them in some dead-end office role.
Spot-on Elberry.
I like to name names with this type of thing. In 2004, I was semi-desperate for a job, and fell so low that I started applying to JPMorgan-Chase. A bank!
Anyway, I got one interview, for a lowly role in some infernal section called payment reconciliations, or some such narcolepsy-inducing monotony. There were two interviewers, and I was doing OK, talking about my deep interest in the mathematics of finance, until the more senior interviewer asked me: “Why do you want to work in payment reconciliations?”
“I don’t want to work in payment reconciliations,” I replied, “I just want to get a job.”
Silence ensued. Neither interviewer knew what to say. I didn’t get the job.
Yes, yes… this is precisely why at the age of 41, the highest paid job I’ve ever had has been working in the post office (part time). I simply cannot lie to those interviewers and pretend I’m so enthusiastic and want to be…well, just like them. I feel acutely the humiliation being inflicted upon me. The job at the post office was dull to say the least, but they didn’t bother to ask anything at the interview, basically if you could write your name you were in.
Maybe you should emigrate to the USA, where mavericks are appreciated…or at least shown a feigned appreciation.
Wonderful. I’m not sure I’ve ever been hired from an interview – I vary between being wildly unsuccessful and partially successful at pulling off those – depending on whether the interviewers have some sense of humor… You may appreciate this site, where it seems some have decided to be thoroughly honest in their cover-letters and resumes…
You’re spot on. Somebody once told me when I was looking for my ‘dream job’ that you’re not supposed to enjoy work. Work is a punishment. Work gets the best PR in the world. For a long time I’ve believed that work was a way to pacify the population – making them get up early in the morning, wear certain clothes and have certain haircuts, eat certain foods (sandwiches) and live in one place for long periods of time. After a while these people will look at you funny if you say you slept in till 1 in the afternoon. I know, I’ve done it!
I never cottoned on to the fact that the weird humiliating ritual that is the job interview was key in this process.
When i was toiling at my data entry jobs, in banks, i concluded that, as you say, ‘work is a punishment’. There were too many rules that made no sense, i mean that they didn’t make me any more productive, in fact they made me more & more disgruntled and miserable, not ideal conditions for a worker. Then i realised the rules made sense if you supposed that the point of work is to make you suffer.